In Episode 2 of Cecilia in Proghalla, Brad Birzer, Kevin McCormick, and Tad Wert have a wide-ranging conversation with the incredibly talented musician Phil Keaggy, and his gifted collaborator, author and poet Kevin Belmonte. They have a new album: Things of Heaven, that is a beautiful set of songs celebrating everything from Paul McCartney’s lost and then found Hofner bass to Easter and Christmas.

Along the way, we touch on Kevin’s new book, G K Chesterton on Life, and Phil’s fascinating career in music. Give it a listen: